ABC: No Flags Please; We Are Americans

ABC News Bans flag and Patriotic lapel Pins’ Even Barbara Walter Complains

Yes, the mainstream media, in this case ABC "News" cannot do enough, quickly enough to destroy whatever independence, sovereignty and freedom we still have left. Now American Flag lapel pins are banned.

After the 9/11 terrorist attacks, there was a report that ABC News asked its on-air reporters not to wear American flag pins or red, what and blue ribbons. Some pointed out at that time that ABC seemed to have been singled out a, for what some said had previously been a standing policy by some news networks of no flag pins or patriotic displays. However that is questionable too, for Brit Hume has worn flag pins on air at CBS, NBC, CNN and FOX.

ABC seemed to loosen it’s policy for awhile as the wave of patriotism swept the nation after 9/11 but last week they reinstated their policy which is in line with the White House, to ban American Flag Lapel Pins for journalists. The tenth anniversary of 9/11 seems an odd time to reinstate this policy?!? (Obama wears one now again when he feels looking patriotic is to his advantage. You’ll see it a lot more as candidate Obama is out on the campaign trail.)

‘ABC News Joins Obama - Bans American Flag Lapel Pins’ was the headline - Barbara Walters said that this was going to hurt ABC bad, as it should. As you know she works for ABC.

Associated Press writer David Bauder quoted Barbara Walters as saying that ABC discouraged its reporters from wearing the flag because "...it may confuse the audience." She was also quoted as saying that there was concern whether someone who decided not to wear a flag in the midst of all the others might be viewed as less patriotic.

ABC NEWS BANS FLAG LAPEL PINS!

YESTERDAY THE BRASS AT ABC NEWS ISSUED ORDERS FORBIDDING REPORTERS TO WEAR LAPEL PIN AMERICAN FLAGS OR OTHER PATRIOTIC INSIGNIA. THEIR REASONING WAS THAT ABC SHOULD REMAIN NEUTRAL ABOUT 'CAUSES'.

SINCE WHEN IS SUPPORT FOR PREVENTING DEATH AND DESTRUCTION SOME SORT OF A 'CAUSE'? SINCE WHEN IS PATRIOTISM TO BE DISCOURAGED?  EVER? WE ARE AMERICANS.

IN REALITY THIS IS NOT A MOVE BY ABC TO REMAIN NEUTRAL ABOUT ‘CAUSES’, BUT RATHER ANOTHER MOVE BY ABC TO MARCH IN LOCK STEP WITH THE LEFTIST ANTI-PATRIOTIC OBAMA WHITE HOUSE AND ANOTHER WIN FOR POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, THE REVENGE OR MARXISM

I URGE YOU TO BOYCOTT ABC AND ITS SPONSORS AND AFFILIATES. WE ARE SLOWLY, NO, RAPIDLY LOSING EVERYTHING OUR COUNTRY STANDS FOR AND EVERYTHING OUR MEN AND WOMEN FOUGHT AND DIED TO PRESERVE!

THIS HAS BEEN VERIFIED THROUGH:  http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/a/abcflag.htm as well as at AskAbout.com/Urban Legends (Snopes has not been updated since 2008 on this subject… but they are becoming less and less reliable and leaning more and more to the left anyway.)

Barbara Walters (and Whoopi) Don't Check Facts, Attack Glenn Beck Anyway…

Scott Baker from Breitbart.tv is my hero for the day.

» Seven-Minute Slam: The Inside Story of Glenn Beck’s ‘Ambush’ on ‘The View’

Source: www.breitbart.tv

In a video post dated June 2, 2009, Breitbart TV reporter Scott Baker reveals that – shocker – Whoopi Goldberg was lying about Glenn Beck’s lying. What’s more, Barbara Walters didn’t check her facts before the Baxter-esque duo ambushed Beck on his May 20 appearance on ABC’s “The View.”

The video – embedded at right – is quite long, but I’ve broken down below the information offered in it.

First up in Baker’s video is a recap of what was known before his investigation.  Beck rode the Amtrak Acela from Connecticut to Washington D.C., and along the way, encountered Walters and Goldberg.  The facts surrounding this encounter were hotly disputed in Beck’s appearance on “The View.”  As it turns out, Beck’s version of the facts were incredibly accurate.  For example, the main premise of the Viewettes’ accusations was that Walters called Beck over to their seats to speak with him – which Beck never claimed in the first place.

Baker follows with incredulity:

So the whole premise of the accusation was false?  Pretty much.  Why are we talking about this?  Didn’t North Korea just test a nuke?  Isn’t Chrysler going bankrupt?  Didn’t Biden mock Obama’s teleprompter – you know, the important stuff?  Why are we talking about who’s talking to who on a train?  Why did this become a network television meltdown?

So how about the rest of it?  The police escort and reserved seats, for example; were those things actually done for the Viewettes’ ease of transportation?

Actually, yes.  So Beck wasn’t lying about that either.  According to Baker, the head of Amtrak communications confirmed to him that ABC had contacted Amtrak in regard to the possibility of a curb-to-train police escort, and that the seats may have been reserved at the discretion of the train’s staff.

In sum, Beck didn’t lie or scramble the facts about his encounter with Walters – and did not so much as misspeak.  Beck was also correct about the police escort for Barbara Walters and Whoopi Goldberg.  Finally, Beck was, as far as anyone can tell, correct about the reserved seats. 

Oh, and the icing on the cake: ABC refuses to communicate with journalists any more on the matter.

Now combine that with the obvious fact that Barbara Walters, a veteran journalist, did not check her facts, all while simultaneously attacking Beck, a self-described commentator, for not checking his facts as a journalist (which he never claimed to be).

The irony of this is nearly beyond belief.

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Glenn Beck: Who's the lying sack of dog mess now? …Indeed!!!!

June 3, 2009 - 12:07 ET

GLENN: Scott Baker is on the phone now from Breitbart TV. Scott, is this the most ridiculous story you've ever reported on?

BAKER: Oh, yeah, if not number one, it's got to be in the top five. And really it was because I felt personally responsible that you got annihilated because we were the ones that put up the original story the Monday after the dinner, when Whoopi gets on at the beginning of your appearance and says, somebody sent me this link, and I got really pissed off.

GLENN: You were the one?

BAKER: So I felt like I owed it to you to figure out what actually happened.
GLENN: I didn't know that. You what are you doing to me, man?

BAKER: I think it was, you know, I don't know, it was karma. My co host Liz Stephans and I were at the Hilton the night of the dinner and I saw and, in fact, I had this cool live backpack that let me wander around broadcasting live from inside the Hilton, and I saw Barbara Walters and Whoopi Goldberg. I did not see you, but I heard that you were there in your pirate cummerbund and everything. And so on Monday

GLENN: You cannot wear

BAKER: When I heard you tell the story about the train, I took it I think the same sort of tone you did. It was just sort of this odd little, you know, amusing thing.
GLENN: Yeah, just a funny stupid little story.

BAKER: Put that up as a post. In fact, people were really interested in because I think they are interested in the idea of privileged media elites being treated like privileged media elites.

GLENN: Right.

BAKER: And so all of a sudden this becomes I'm watching The View when you were on and I'm like, I cannot believe that this is happening.

GLENN: Okay. So hang on just a second. You know, you took the right approach to this story that they missed entirely and that is, you know, as an aside at the end of the story, I said this is why the media thinks, you know, all of these things are great, because they get this special privilege and they're like, "No, I ride Amtrak. I mean, what's wrong with Amtrak?" No, you don't ride Amtrak the way the regular people ride Amtrak. You just were escorted through the train station with police officers. Then they walked you into the car where there were magically some seats available that nobody was sitting in. You know what I mean?

BAKER: Would that that was exactly it. To me the heart of the story was not like who said hi to who. The heart of the story became hypocrisy and that's when I really got interested. In fact, that's when I sort of got a little ticked off because as I started to check on it and you guys are already talked about it a little bit on the air and Stu the played the clip showing that you never even said she came over to you. And still I thought, you know, what happens on here's a national television show that takes this rising conservative media star and spends an entire seven minute segment. And there are women that watch that show that may not have seen your Fox show, may not pay attention to anything and they are going to have a lingering impression, "Oh, this is the guy that makes stuff up," right?

GLENN: Right.

BAKER: It's easy to throw that out there, make fun of you for not saying, "Are you a reporter, do you check your facts" and then they move on and they don't want to hear about it. So that's when I started putting in calls to the Amtrak PR guys, the ABC PR guys. And honestly I thought I would get a little bit of response. I was astounded, stonewall everywhere. And so that's when I thought, all right, well, I'm just going to keep at this. And so that's what I did.

GLENN: Hold on.

BAKER: And that's when it cracked.

GLENN: Hold on just a second. Because you are a reporter. I'm not. When you got stonewalled, did you think, holy cow, did you go into this thinking that maybe I was making this up or I mean, how did you approach this and when did you know, oh, my gosh, ABC is lying?

BAKER: Yeah. Well, yes, you are right, you've got me because, you know, we've had you on your show that we do on Breitbart TV, the B Cast and we've hung out just a little bit a couple of times you've been in Pittsburgh and so I knew firsthand that you are a lying sack of dog mess. I knew that right away.

GLENN: (Laughing).

BAKER: So I went in with that, you know, as my obviously.

GLENN: Yes, yes. Glenn is clearly a lying sack of dog mess.

BAKER: Exactly. And in fact, what happened, I called I thought, you know what, I'm going to start with Amtrak, you know, before I call ABC.

GLENN: Okay.

BAKER: Because since Barbara Walters had said on the air, you know, a reporter should check out facts, you should have called me, it would have been no problem. I was expecting I'd have no problem on getting information from ABC. So I called Amtrak, left a message for the guy in their New York office and then actually in the piece that we have on the site, we include part of this episode.

GLENN: That's amazing.

BAKER: We were doing our live webcast.

GLENN: Yeah.

BAKER: Which is on after 4:00 and the guy called right at, you know, 4:05 or something like that. And I got one of those things on my iPhone that was like, you know, blocked number and I thought, this is the guy. And if I wait until our show's over, he's going to be gone. So I just answered the phone live, legally just record you know, because it was live for our audience watching. They could hear me but they couldn't hear him.

GLENN: Hang on just a second. Hang on, Scott. We're going to include this in our free e mail newsletter, we're going to include the link. What time did we get in Eastern time last night? 3:00 a.m., 3:30? 3:30 Eastern time we arrived in San Diego last night and I was so tired, but we stood in my hotel room with the laptop on the bed and we all stood there and we watched this for 20 minutes last night. And you see you on the phone with the guy from the Amtrak and they can just see the wheels in your head going, "You've got to be kidding me, man."

BAKER: Exactly.

GLENN: So we're going to include this whole video that he's talking about with the newsletter, and it's a good thing that we have a newsletter that is about 100,000 shy of the New York Times circulation. So we can correct the message. We don't need the media to do that for us. But it's an amazing thing to watch because of the media arrogance.

All right. So you have him on the phone. You're recording this and what does he say to you?

BAKER: Well, he gives me this very carefully prepared thing that says, it is not the policy of Amtrak to reserve, you know, seats, and there are some exceptions. And it was very vague, right? And listen, I had gone to the terms and conditions section of the Amtrak website. I can see, you know, how they worded things. And I went in. I tried to say to him even on that call, it's like, if Amtrak has a policy, we reserve seats for VIPs, no problem.

GLENN: No problem at all.

BAKER: Then reserve away. Great, treat them however you want them. That's fine. But if your policy is you can't reserve seats, then I kind of want to know. But he actually made fun of me wanting to know what happened. He said, "We're not investigating this because the parties, neither of the parties involved have requested that." And I said, "Well, why would they? Glenn Beck was on the train. He knows what happened. He doesn't have to call you and say, what happened to me." And I said, "And Barbara Walters and Whoopi Goldberg aren't going to call you. I said, I'm calling you." And didn't want to answer it. And I said, well you know I'm going to call the Washington office. And he said, you'll get the same answer. I called the Washington office and he was exactly right; same answer.

GLENN: You should have called me because I would have asked for that investigation. You should have called me.

BAKER: But I wasn't I thought I didn't even like, you know, call your office and say, "Get Glenn to beg for..." because I thought, I'm just going to leave you guys out of it, see what I can find out. The top PR guy was out of town. So I was going to wait. That's why it took like an extra week to figure this out. And in the meantime then, you know, I start to kind of find out who is the PR person for The View and all that. Finally the top guy at Amtrak calls me back and I actually have the first adult conversation that I had the entire two weeks, and I was expecting he was nice, which was shocking, and I was expecting that I'd get the same kind of basic answer, but he said, I have some news for you. And I kind of just like gulped. And he said, I can confirm that ABC did contact Amtrak to request a police escort for Barbara Walters and Whoopi Goldberg. And I was like, well, holy cow. You know, that's kind of what Glenn described. And then he said

GLENN: They came in, and they came in and that's exactly what happened.

BAKER: Exactly.

GLENN: I said that on the air.

BAKER: And he said, here's the deal on how, you know, on probably what happened with the train. And he admitted he did not talk to the person that was the cabin attendant and he didn't know. So it's still unclear whether ABC requested specific seats, but really that doesn't matter. We know that ABC requested special accommodation for Barbara Walters and Whoopi Goldberg, special treatment.
GLENN: Wait. But wait. We called Barbara Walters' office and you just asked her and she said, if you just want to know, you just call my office.

BAKER: So I e mail the PR guy at The View. I basically get ridicule, right? In fact, when I started he was like, you know, who are you, you know? And I was like, okay, that's a fair question. Not everybody in the world goes to Breitbart TV. And so I kind of laid it out a little bit, and honestly and I'm hoping you are sitting down. This is what he said about our story. He said, "That train has left the station."

GLENN: (Laughing).

BAKER: That was it, you know. I was like, come on. So finally after I think that this is I'm not going to get anything, I finally send an e mail and I say, listen, Amtrak has now confirmed information about what ABC requested. I'm going to go ahead and do the story whether you guys comment or not, but do you want to comment. He writes back and says, well, I'm not going to comment on something that I don't know what the allegation is. So I write back now saying what the allegation is and then I get an e mail from Whoopi Goldberg. And now, of course, now my dreams and hopes have all come true, you know. And like I'm exaggerating.

GLENN: Be very, very careful what you say about these did you get an e mail from her first? Did you send it? Be very careful on what you say here.
BAKER: Right, exactly. So when I say I got an e mail from Whoopi Goldberg, I got a forwarded e mail by her PR guy that was addressed "To whom it may be concerned."
GLENN: Right.

BAKER: But guess what. I'm the one who may be concerned. So I took that as answering me.

GLENN: Yes. But she probably had no intention of actually answering you. She may not have known that it was even going to you.

BAKER: Right.

GLENN: Why are you such a liar, Scott?

BAKER: I know, I know.

GLENN: So what does it say?

BAKER: And basically it just restated everything that happened on the show which is, in fact, what the PR guy had said in one of the e mails. "They talked about this on the air. Didn't you see it." And so she said, you know, here's what happened; Glenn Beck was wrong; I called him out. And it just and I was like, well, that doesn't answer any actual question. So I wrote back, thanked her and the PR guy for responding in the first place. And I said and I was very clear. Said, look, I understand it is possible, maybe even probable that the women, Barbara Walters and Whoopi Goldberg, didn't know that ABC had requested this. However, I think that as you get out of your Town Car and police are around you walking you along, it might occur to you not every Amtrak passenger is getting this sort of escort. So I found that but still possible that they thought maybe Amtrak just on their own, you know, they won the Amtrak lottery that day.

GLENN: Sure.

BAKER: So I wrote back and I said, here are my questions, though. And I was very specific because I went over. I said, you know, Glenn never said that Barbara Walters approached him, you know, on the train. He didn't say, "I accused Whoopi Goldberg and Barbara Walters of reserving seats on this train." He just said, "I got on the train and they told me that's seats were reserved and then these people got on." So this is all silly except for the fact that it became a seven minute segment where it was clear that Barbara Walters and Whoopi Goldberg are like, we're going to take this guy down a notch; we want to wipe that smug smile off his face. And that's the part that got me mad. And I get an answer back from the PR guy that just says, there will be no further, you know, communication about this story. So I get nothing from Barbara Walters, nothing from her office. So after all of this, you know, sort of sanctimonious lecturing of you

GLENN: Do me a favor. Do me a favor. Will you write this down for me in a short pithy what you have. I'm going to attach it to a letter myself and I am going to send it to Barbara Walters' office myself because she said, "All you have to do is call." That's fine. I would like a statement back from her.

BAKER: Right.

GLENN: On what we have done. I'm not a journalist, I'm not an investigative reporter, but you are and so this is what has happened. I would like a response and an apology.
BAKER: That you didn't ask for.
GLENN: I did ask for, but it is such a stupid story. It is such a stupid story. I don't think this story is about me. This story is about, you know, look, if I'm an average Joe, do you do all this work on this stupid story for an average Joe? You don't, do you?

BAKER: I feel bad about that, but yes, you are probably right.

GLENN: Yeah. Because it doesn't matter.

BAKER: Right.

GLENN: So if you are the average Joe, look how this media wheel can just come and crush people. Barbara Walters, arguably one of the most credible women in America, looked at me with that Barbara Walters face, "If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be," and said to me, we need to know what your character is, we need to know who you really are, after she accused me of lying.

BAKER: Right. Repeatedly.

GLENN: I mean, who wins on that, especially with her audience, who wins in that argument? Well, she clearly does. And she has besmirched my good name. I tell you, I wasn't as mad as I really ended up being until I spoke to my wife. And my wife was so angry, she said, "How dare they. This I was on the train. I witnessed all of it. Don't you understand what they've done? Look at what they're doing. How could they possibly do that to somebody?" And to me it's such a stupid story, it doesn't matter. But I would like to see Barbara Walters' response now.

BAKER: Right.

GLENN: Because I contend, Scott, that it really is I can see Barbara Walters being so out of touch with her lifestyle now because she's lived this for so long. She needs police and she, you know, blah, blah blah, blah blah.

BAKER: Right.

GLENN: And I have no problem with that. And I could see her not even, you know, just thinking, "Well, that's kind of... well, it always is like this." Whoopi Goldberg thinks, "Well, it's just always like this when I'm with Barbara." I don't know, but somebody owes me an apology to say, Glenn, I'm sorry, we didn't know; you know, Barbara was just Norma Desmond and didn't know this is the life she's leading now. And, you know, Whoopi, "I didn't know, either." Somebody needs to do that. Would you put something pithy together for me?

BAKER: I will be glad to write it up. The heart of it is exactly what you said. The incident is stupid. The hypocrisy and the stonewalling, it points to the bigger problem. And it's this ability of that sort of liberal media elite to try to effect a takedown, whether it's you or Joe the plumber. It's like, we're going to come in, we're just going to go bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, and then move on and you can't call us on it.

GLENN: That's right.

BAKER: And that's what I tried to do was call them on it.

GLENN: We're going to put this in our newsletter today at GlennBeck.com. Thank you for wasting so much time on this story.

BAKER: You got it.

GLENN: You've got to watch the whole thing, it's amazing.

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GLENN: And so anyway, so I was just a little uncomfortable. I get home and I'm just sick as a dog. I'm running a fever. I get home. My wife tucks me in, we talk about the day, I tell my kids a story, I get up and I ride and I say, I just can't, I just can't go in to TV today or radio. I'm just, I'm too sick, but I'll honor the commitment to The View. Ooh, what a mistake that was . What a mistake that was. 

STU: They seemed to be ‑‑ look, they seemed to have a warm reception for you. 

GLENN: Yes, like hell? 

STU: That is, that's a warm place. 

GLENN: That's a very warm place. 

STU: That's a very warm place. They seemed to not have, like, an agenda or anything. They didn't seem to ‑‑ 

GLENN: Oh, I didn't sense an agenda there, did you? 

STU: They seemed to, like, want to let you get your side of the story out. 

GLENN: Yes, yes. 

STU: They seemed to be open to anyone disagreeing. 

GLENN: Liar! No, you know what? You know what, I will tell you this about Whoopi Goldberg. In the end Whoopi Goldberg came up to me and I said, you know, Whoopi, I was actually coming out to compliment you on what you said in the previous break. Because I don't remember what it was, and God forbid I misquote anybody on The View. But it was something along the lines of, you know, the Republicans and the Democrats, we just have to start telling the truth. We just all have to, you know, we have to put our differences aside. And I said, I was actually coming out to compliment you to say, you know, I couldn't believe that. That's great. That's going to ‑‑ and she said ‑‑ now see, again I don't know if I said that first or if she said what she said first. 

STU: Uh‑oh. 

GLENN: I don't want to mix up ‑‑ 

STU: Liar! 

GLENN: ‑‑ who said something first. But she said, you know, I would just ‑‑ this is in the past. I would just appreciate it if you would call me, you know, in advance before you would say something about me. And I said, okay, sure. And she said because, you know, we could disagree with things but we can be friendly and we can be friends. And she was actually very, she was actually very nice afterwards. After my head was in the basket, she was very nice.

STU: This is after on national television she called you a lying sack of dog mess. 

GLENN: Yes. 

STU: You would say this is the ‑‑ 

GLENN: Yes. 

STU: This is afterwards. 

GLENN: Uh‑huh, uh‑huh. 

STU: There was that moment on television. 

GLENN: She was very upset. I'm not sure ‑‑ 

STU: Then you're saying off air she was kind enough to say something like that.

More Proof?  Email records show Glenn wondering who would be on the train in the 'reserved seats'...

GLENN: Call me. Which I still don't have her number. So I don't know how to call her, but I'm sure people know how to call her people. 

STU: Yes. In all honesty, you look at someone like a Whoopi Goldberg, she probably ‑‑ maybe she, you know, feels like, you know, you had a ‑‑ you met her on the train, it was nice and then she thinks you're trashing her for whatever reason. 

GLENN: I think that's what it was. I think with Whoopi Goldberg, I think that it was that she thought maybe we had a nice moment. 

STU: Yeah. 

GLENN: I mean, maybe. 

STU: And then, you know, she sees this clip of you. She gets essentially like out of nowhere someone sends her a clip and you're talking about her. 

GLENN: Right. 

STU: I don't know what she thought exactly. 

GLENN: I don't know what Whoopi Goldberg believes and I wasn't afforded the time to ask what exactly I was lying about or reply or defend myself or anything. But so I don't know exactly what her deal is. I told the TV staff, call her, invite her on the show. I'd love to talk to her on the show. 

STU: But she seemed like a normal person afterwards, at least.

GLENN: Yes, yes. 

STU: Cool. That's good. 

GLENN: Yes. 

STU: And you are not going to ruin Elisabeth for me, are you? Because you know I love her. 

GLENN: Elisabeth, I don't know what the deal was with Elisabeth. She was very nice but she wasn't ‑‑ she wasn't helpful but she wasn't hurting at all. 

STU: She wasn't allowed to talk. 

GLENN: I think she was just ‑‑ I notice, I watched it last night and I noticed that she was ‑‑ it really was, it was the two ends, it was Whoopi and Barbara Walters. 

STU: I saw Elisabeth a couple of times trying to say stuff. 

DAN: What's she going to do? It was a he said/she said situation that she wasn't in. 

GLENN: I'm not saying that she wasn't helpful intentionally. She was just ‑‑ but what is she going to do? She's not going to stop that train wreck. It was an absolute ‑‑ it was a setup. It was an ambush. I walked off the set and the producer ‑‑ and I'll tell you later, but the producer was getting an earful from Adam who I've never seen Adam ever upset. And my wife was giving an earful to somebody else as well. My wife wasn't even on the set. She was giving an earful to somebody else because Adam and my wife and Adam's wife were all there. And I walked off the ‑‑ because the green room is actually on ‑‑ this is enormous stage and so right behind the set of The View is the makeup room but it's not a separate room. It's, they're fake walls. And then right behind that is another fake living room kind of set and that is the green room. And everybody sits in the green room. And apparently Adam said the temperature dropped ‑‑ you know, he said it's like in the cartoons where you can just hear everything freeze and just, the ice go (crackling noises). He said, it got very cold and very, very quiet in the green room and at one point when I was walking out, Adam was at that walkout curtain. You know where the curtain is? He said, "I almost came out there myself." And I believed him. I've never seen him like that. I've never been treated more poorly than I was treated ever. And I've been treated poorly before. I'm used to going into places and being treated poorly. 

STU: Yes, it's a hostile environment most times when you go on shows. 

GLENN: Yes, yes. I mean, I have done hostile shows before. I've worked in hostile environments before. I have never been treated in a more unprofessional, 4‑year‑old sort of way than I was treated at The View. And I tried to be ‑‑ I tried to be very nice. I tried to be a gentleman. I don't believe in going on into somebody's house and peeing all over their furniture. I've had other people do that on my set. You don't do that. 

STU: There was a point there I was ‑‑ I should have just whipped it out. 

GLENN: I considered it. I considered it. I'm glad I didn't because I think ‑‑ I mean, well, I don't know. I don't have any intention of making enemies, but I'm not going to also hold my tongue. I will say what I believe. This is what I do. 

You know, I mean, Barbara Walters, "So you call yourself an investigative journalist." No. Don't you ever do your own homework, Barbara? Don't you check your facts? No, I don't call myself an investigative journalist. I'm nothing of the kind. 

STU: In fact, in five million interviews you can read that exact quote, that you are not a journalist. 

GLENN: Right. And I'm not a journalist as a badge of honor quite frankly. 

STU: Even more after that interview. 

GLENN: I am a ‑‑ exactly right. I'm more of what Whoopi Goldberg does. 

STU: Right. 

GLENN: I'm a storyteller. I'm somebody who just kind of reflects on what happens in life. I tell you my point of view on what's going on. 

STU: Right. And she tried to get ‑‑ like it's typical media self‑congratulations as she says to you, "Oh, you are not a journalist?" 

GLENN: Don't use a voice on Barbara Walters. 

STU: You're not a journalist? 

GLENN: See, this isn't going to go well. 

STU: And you say no. And she says, well, then you don't check any facts? No. See, people who aren't journalists care about the facts, too. In fact, as I've learned over the years, sometimes a lot more than the actual journalists. 

GLENN: I wonder if the journalists like Barbara Walters called my office to check on my facts because I have four witnesses. No, no. No, she didn't. She didn't call to get my side of the story before she put me on national television and called me a liar. 

STU: That's so... that's so ‑‑ 

GLENN: But it's not ‑‑ see, this isn't ‑‑ but you know what? It's okay for her not to check her facts but to the apparently for me. And I'm sorry, and I apologize. And Whoopi, I told her at the end, she said, you know, if you have a ‑‑ if something like this happens again ‑‑ and I'm thinking to myself, I don't think this is going to happen again. "But if something like this happens again," she said, "You just call me. Just call me." And I wanted to ‑‑ 

STU: That's a rational response. 

GLENN: It is. And I wanted to say, "Okay, I don't have your number." And I didn't know ‑‑ I mean, it doesn't occur to me. These people who are in this ‑‑ I was thinking about it last night as, you know, Mary said, "My gosh, they just tore into..." Mary's my daughter, my 20‑year‑old. And I walked out of the room and I'm like, I've just been torn to shreds by a person that was in the movie "Ghost." You know what I mean? 

STU: Jumping Jack Flash was much better. 

DAN: Sister Act, too. 

GLENN: No, but what I'm saying is these guys are ‑‑ they are in those circles. I don't consider myself in those circles. I don't call Whoopi Goldberg up. You don't even consider that. 

STU: Just to follow Whoopi's logic here for a moment and again, you know, it's nice that she said something good to you off the air afterwards, after the interview but the ‑‑ 

GLENN: See, I think she was genuine. I could be wrong but I think she was genuine. 

STU: I'm legitimately serious because at least you can have disagreements on the air about something, you can scream at each other. You get off the air and you are actually civil, I think that's respectable. But to follow her logic, she could have called you before putting you on the air and accusing you of a liar. You know, she says ‑‑ 

GLENN: Right, exactly right. 

STU: She says call me next time. How about you call me? I'm the schlub here. You're the person who everybody knows. 

GLENN: How about Barbara Walters? Barbara Walters. I don't even know if they were accusing me of lying about who walked up to whom first. This is how stupid and ridiculous this is. 

STU: Oh, my god. 

GLENN: I mean, this is national television time. The dollar is falling through the ground. You know, we're talking about Gitmo and torture and everything else. I would have rather talked about American Idol who, by the way, the producer asked me prior to who's going to win, and I got it right. But we could have, we could have talked about that. Instead we talk about a stupid train on who approached who first. 

STU: I mean, and in all honesty, I mean, we can talk about how ridiculous it was the way they treated you, but there has never been a more pointless seven minutes of television. 

GLENN: No. It was ridiculous. 

STU: I'm talking you can include every Japanese game show and you'd still not come up with seven minutes of more pointless television. 

GLENN: And you don't even speak Japanese, yeah. 

STU: No. I still learn more. You are talking seven minutes about whether you properly characterized ‑‑ 

GLENN: Can I tell you something? 

STU: ‑‑ the order of introductions on a train trip. 

GLENN: Here's the thing. And you know, I don't really even ‑‑ I don't care because Barbara Walters made it very clear that I was not to make fun of her. 

STU: What did she say? Did she say that? 

GLENN: Stop. 

STU: But I wanted to ‑‑ 

GLENN: Stop. So I'm not making fun ‑‑ so I'm not going to make fun of her. Look, she is a woman who accomplished an awful lot in her life, in the many, many, many storied years of her life. She has accomplished an awful lot. She broke ground for women way, way, way, way back. 

STU: Yep, especially the wife of a particular senator she ‑‑ 

GLENN: So I'm not going to make fun of her. I am going to say this. I did have the feeling she was Norma Desmond. Now, if you don't know who Norma Desmond is, just remember this one line: I'm ready for my close‑up, Mr. DeMille. It was almost ‑‑ because it was creepy. It was creepy. She was extraordinarily hostile. When she asked me ‑‑ and we'll play this back. She was doing a stare‑down. Like she was like 8 years old. She was doing a stare‑down with me. And I thought to myself, what are you doing. And I felt, I actually ‑‑ in the end I feel bad because I feel like she ‑‑ maybe is she sensing that she's ‑‑ you know, I felt like Jerry Seinfeld: Do you even know who I am? You know what I mean? You know that moment with Larry King where you're like, hmmm, wow, are you ‑‑ hello?

Stu's 2 minute investigation

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GLENN: I think it was, I think it was that I said ‑‑ but I wasn't really even sure. I think it was that I said that I walked up to Barbara Walters. Because I remember I listened back ‑‑ what was it, three days ago, two days ago? I listened back to it on the air on this program. And I said, no, no, that's not exactly true; I didn't walk up to her. Remember? 

STU: Yeah, you were going into the investigation. 

GLENN: Oh, you have an investigation? 

STU: There's a full‑fledged investigation on this. 

GLENN: Oh, hang on just a second. We have an investigation. Hold on, Steve, this is good stuff. Go ahead. 

STU: Yes, this is another in a series of Stu's two‑minute investigations where I do approximately two minutes of work to prove an entire story false. 

GLENN: This is great because this is the two minutes that apparently the press won't ever do on stories. 

STU: Yes. 

GLENN: There was a big ‑‑ what was the big Internet scam that happened? Oh, it was on the tea parties. It was on the tea parties and the 9/12er that was like, hey, we should burn all the books. And nobody spent two minutes. So Stu, what he does is he caps himself: I'm only going to do two minutes of work on this. What did you find in a two‑minute investigation? 

STU: Well, first of all I had to answer the question the caller just asked which is what were they accusing you of lying about. 

GLENN: Yes. 

STU: Two things that I came up with. Number one, that their seats on Amtrak were not reserved. Now, they were saying they were not reserved but the Amtrak employee was saying that they were.

GLENN: Yes. 

STU: Okay? Now, I am doubting that Whoopi Goldberg or Barbara Walters called 1‑800‑Amtrak or in Barbara Walters' case picked up a phone and waited for an operator to ask where they want to call and say Amtrak, please, that whole thing. But if they did not ‑‑ 

GLENN: "Hey, ring up the train." 

STU: Crank the phone. 

GLENN: Call the choo‑choo. 

STU: Right. So, you know, now I don't know how ‑‑ again we're going to go into this in a second, how exactly you knew before the stop that these were going to be reserved. But we'll get into that in a moment. 

GLENN: Yes. 

STU: But let's go into the second lie because this is the more easy one to prove. 

GLENN: This is the one, I think this is the one that they were going after. 

STU: You said Barbara called you over and it was the other way around. This was the accusation of that, okay? 

GLENN: Yes. That she said that, "Glenn Beck, come hither" or whatever. And then I walked over to her. Which is not the way it happened. 

STU: Right. Now, if that were true, what difference would it make to the story, first of all? 

GLENN: No difference. 

STU: No difference. Has no relevance whatsoever. Was it some of the worst, most pointless moments on television? 

GLENN: Yes, it was. 

STU: Yes, it was. But the consensus is that you did say something wrong here. Even you conceded this point multiple times, on The View and on Fox last night. You conceded that you said something wrong. 

GLENN: And I also said it on the air before, I believe.

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STU: Right. 

GLENN: Yeah. 

STU: So here we go. Upon further investigation ‑‑ this is again the two minutes. 

GLENN: This is two minutes. 

STU: Where I actually listened to what you said. 

GLENN: Okay. 

STU: We've come up with an incredible truth. This is Cut 4, Dan. You didn't say that at all. Never did you say anything like Barbara came over to me. Listen for it and listen very closely. When you hear this: 

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) 

GLENN: Now, as the train took off and Barbara said, Glenn Beck. And I said, yes, Mrs. Walters, how are you? I walked up, so you know, I walked up to Ms. ‑‑ because she was looking at me. And I don't know if she was just looking at me and thinking about somebody else or, you know, just ‑‑ you know how sometimes you'll just be staring at people and you just don't even know you're staring at them? 

STU: Right. 

GLENN: Okay, stop. 

(END AUDIO CLIP) 

STU: So this is the retelling of the story. 

GLENN: Which is before The View. 

STU: So you clarify it. But if you listen to the audio, Dan, if we could play the stuff they played on The View, then you can clarify. You clarified something you didn't need to clarify. At no point did you actually say that Barbara came up to you first. Listen to the audio. 

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) 

GLENN: And so there were four seats at this table and it was empty. So we get in and we sit down at the table and the lady says, no, no, no, no, you can't take those. Why not? They're reserve. They're reserved? I didn't ‑‑ you can't reserve ‑‑ no, no, these are reserved. 

Now, I'm thinking Joe "Amtrak" Biden is getting onto the train because you cannot reserve a seat on Amtrak. They don't do it. Well, all of a sudden the police enter. "Clear the path." It's Barbara Walters and Whoopi Goldberg, oh, and Steve Kroft. How did they reserve seats on Amtrak when you can't reserve seats on Amtrak? Now, as the train took off and Barbara said, "Glenn Beck." 

(END AUDIO CLIP) 

STU: Okay, that's all you need to hear, but that's the whole point. So the train takes off and Barbara says something to you. 

GLENN: And she didn't ‑‑ okay. So here's the way it happened. She didn't say, "Glenn Beck." I said, "Ms. Walters, Glenn Beck." And she said, "Yes, you're going to be on The View coming up." That's what she said. 

STU: Why didn't you say what the Amtrak conductor said during that time? 

GLENN: Because he may have said, "Tickets?" He may have said that. 

STU: Now, is it because "Tickets" isn't relevant at all to the conversation? 

GLENN: Yes. 

STU: So what you are saying is you may have jumped in to a relevant point in the conversation. At no point did you say Barbara came over to me. You just said the train left and Barbara said this. 

GLENN: Right. 

STU: Not, and the worst part is in the very odd case that it may have implied that Barbara came up to you, for no good reason later on the radio, you clarified it, as we played earlier, and you said, oh, no, Barbara actually didn't come up to me; I came up to her. 

GLENN: I believe that Whoopi Goldberg does not think that those seats were reserved. I don't think she, I don't think she calls to have them reserved. I just, this is my speculation. We never got to this part. We never got to ‑‑ we never got to any of that. Any reasonable people would have sat around and said, "So wait a minute, they told you what?" And we would have laughed about it. As my wife said last night, "Women." And I said, what does that mean? And she said, do you think, Glenn, if you would have gotten on television, it would have been a bunch of guys, you would have said, what the hell was up with that? I didn't do that. It wasn't reserved. Really? Wasn't reserved? And you wouldn't have had a conversation about it. She said this is what women do. And I said, no, I just think this is what people with an agenda do. But so we never really had an actual conversation on this. I believe that Whoopi also doesn't believe that she had any kind of special treatment, that they didn't reserve those seats. 

STU: That was the point of the whole monologue. 

GLENN: Right. Somebody reserved those seats because we were not allowed to sit in them. They had them all covered with papers and we couldn't sit in them. When we got onto the train, they walked in. Steve Kroft did not sit with them. The police walked them up to those seats. Barbara said, "You want to sit here?" They sat there. But that's where the police were standing, standing right there. That's when the person who told us they were reserved took all of those papers up and moved them off. I mean, so now, does Barbara even know? This goes back to my point that Barbara has been living in such an elitist sort of world for so long and, you know, she's, you know ‑‑ and I think that she has now gotten to the point to where she doesn't even know. She doesn't even know. "I think that's the way I always, I just happened to find those seats there." Somebody called to reserve those seats and if it wasn't Barbara Walters and Whoopi Goldberg that were supposed to sit in those seats, who was it? Who was the celebrity that was supposed to ‑‑ now, I haven't done my journalistic , you know ‑‑ because I'm not a journalist. I didn't call Amtrak to find out who it was, what celebrity didn't sit in those seats. But the lady who said they were saved, for someone in New York and you would see when we got into New York who it was and you'd be all excited and then she looked at us and she kind of like went, huh? You know, I just thought it was ‑‑ it's at least who I believe the Amtrak lady thought was sitting there. 

STU: Right. So as we look at this, we learned that when you say something that they said was wrong, they called you a liar, okay? Now, when you ‑‑ when they came out and said, "Oh, well, you kept saying Barbara came over here; that's a lie." By their own definition, they're lying when they say that. So you didn't ‑‑ we looked at the audio. You have not said that. We've listened to it all. So you didn't say the supposed lie they accused you of. They didn't do the fact checking of actually listening to the audio of what you said. Then they didn't do the fact checking of finding out if you had further clarified it on another radio show, which you had. 

GLENN: Aren't they journalists? 

STU: Why? Is it because no one sent Whoopi a link to that particular audio clip? That's the bottom line is no one happens ‑‑ 

GLENN: See, again I'll take ‑‑ I'll stand up for Whoopi Goldberg. 

STU: No, no, Glenn ‑‑ 

GLENN: Whoopi Goldberg is not a journalist. Whoopi Goldberg does exactly what I do. They talk about the thing. They talk about the things in life. Barbara Walters, however ‑‑ 

STU: Oh, exactly. 

GLENN: Is a different story. 

STU: So I don't know what they're doing. They're either ignoring or incompetently look looking for your, as it turns out, unnecessary clarification. So there are a couple of questions to ask Ms. Barbara Walters. 

STU: Yes. 

GLENN: And I think she said it best, when she said this! 

(AUDIO CLIP PLAYS) 

STU: I don't know, Barbara. Do we check facts, Barbara? 

GLENN: I don't know what kind of tree I'm supposed to be when I'm on your show. Am I a tree that doesn't check facts because that's not what trees do? But you instead, you check your facts but yet you don't check your facts? Wow. Good job, investigative reporter Barbara Walters.

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Glenn ambushed on 'The View' ... Anybody Shocked??

 

Glenn knew this wasn't going to be pretty -- but his interview with the ladies on The View was even worse than anticipated, mostly because they wasted an entire segment on accusations that Glenn 'lied' about who said hello to who first on his Amtrak train ride with Barbara and Whoopi to the Correspondents dinner in Washington DC. The saddest part is that not only did they waste an entire segment on a completely insignificant, petty, humorless and incidental point – Glenn had already clarified the point the day before! Tune in to Fox News tonight at 5pm for Glenn's first response to the 'liar liar pants on fire' ambush interview by the ladies on The View. Watch the ambush HERE.

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